Oral History Program Gary Allen Cooper Interviewed by Lorrie Rands & Brian Whitney 2 July 2015 Oral History Program Weber State University Stewart Library Ogden, Utah Gary Allen Cooper Interviewed by Lorrie Rands & Brian Whitney 2 July 2015 Copyright © 2015 by Weber State University, Stewart Library iii Mission Statement The Oral History Program of the Stewart Library was created to preserve the institutional history of Weber State University and the Davis, Ogden and Weber County communities. By conducting carefully researched, recorded, and transcribed interviews, the Oral History Program creates archival oral histories intended for the widest possible use. Interviews are conducted with the goal of eliciting from each participant a full and accurate account of events. The interviews are transcribed, edited for accuracy and clarity, and reviewed by the interviewees (as available), who are encouraged to augment or correct their spoken words. 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Cooper discusses his father, Gary L. Cooper, recent inductee to the Utah Cowboy Hall of Fame. BW: Today is July 2, 2015, the time is about 1:30 p.m. We are interviewing Gary Allen Cooper regarding his father Gary L. Cooper, recent inductee into the Cowboy Heritage Museum. This is a phone interview being conducted by Lorrie Rands and Brian Whitney. LR: Alright Gary can we just start off with some simple background information about where your father was born and when? GC: That would be a good question. My father was born in 1930. I think he was born in either Lehi or Cedar Fork, Utah, and he definitely was raised in Lehi and Cedar Fork which is about 20 miles apart, because the family, they lived in both. He graduated from Lehi High School, can’t tell you the year but I’m sure it was 18 years from when he started. 1948 I think it was actually. LR: Okay when he graduated from high school? GC: I think so. LR: Do you by chance know any stories of when he was a young boy? GC: I’ve heard several, but none I like to repeat. My dad was a tough kid growing up. Through school, he was kind of the one that everybody went to, nobody picked on him, so everybody hung around him. He was kind of the tough guy of the class I guess you’d say. One of his claims to fame was the fact that he actually beat Gene Folmer twice in boxing, but that was before Gene Folmer turned 2 professional. It was the Golden Gloves era and when I was a kid I remember my dad took me to Gene and introduced me to Gene. So Gene himself told me that dad did actually beat Gene several years after Gene had retired, but that’s something that’s always stuck in my brain. My dad was a Golden Gloves boxer in the Army at Fort Ward, middleweight division. Like I say he was kind of a tough kid, I can’t think of any stories right off. LR: So he beat Gene Folmer while in the Army? GC: Yes before they turned professional when they were like 18 years old. LR: Oh well that’s cool. GC: Twice actually. LR: So it sounds like no matter what your father did he was the best at it. GC: Yes he tried to be. LR: Was there anything he couldn’t do? GC: Not that I can think of. My dad was a pretty skilled carpenter. He built several houses as I grew up over the years. He worked at Geneva where he ran equipment. My dad he actually built in high school and shortly after he was into wood working and actually built the bedroom set that they used and died in basically. Along those lines he actually was involved in the CIA. In town he disagreed with their philosophy of rodeo basically. LR: Can you explain that a little bit more? GC: The CIA of Lehi had their own people that did things and my dad run around with the cowboys in town which rodeo was a major part of my dad’s life that he excelled in. He never got on a bareback horse until he was 22, but all the 3 cowboys would meet at the coffee shop once a day and they’d hash things over and none of them in town agreed with the way the CIA did things. So the CIA was kind of separated from the cowboys of Lehi as far as their rodeo went even though there was a bunch of them that traveled the rodeos and all that. They just didn’t get along on their ideas on how to do things. LR: What were some of those, the ideas that they differed on? GC: Oh Cotton Rosser, you know who that is? LR: Yes we do. GC: He wanted to do things one way and the cowboys didn’t like it. Everything from oversized steers to stock that wouldn’t buck and having him do more than one rodeo at a time and not furnishing the stock. Basically he did most of the rodeo stuff in Lehi ever since I can remember. You know sometimes it would be years to put on Reno Rodeo at the same time and there’d be years that Lehi would get rough stock or poor steers or this and that. The cowboys would try to tell Lehi that they could do it and do it better with somebody like Swanney Kirby and the CIA would disagree. I think it’s mainly because CIA got rodeo tickets to national finals rodeo. BW: Interesting, can you talk a little bit about your father’s decision not to go professional? GC: Yes I remember the conversation pretty well actually because my dad traveled a little bit with Jim Shoulders. I don’t know if you know who that is but he was an all-around cowboy, world champion several years. Dad traveled with him a little bit and I remember him coming to our house and trying to talk my dad into 4 traveling with him. My dad had a good job at Geneva Steel and it meant him leaving the family and his job at Geneva which was security. Back in those days to win a purse was only somewhere between eighty and one hundred fifty dollars. That pretty much didn’t matter what rodeo you went too. I remember a family conversation one time where dad was going to go travel with Jim for a while and see how they did. I remember I was worried because I was young. I couldn’t have been much more than seven, eight years old at the time and I remember being worried that he was going to leave because I didn’t really understand, but I definitely remember that. His decision was made that he would just rodeo here locally. I think he basically just traveled from Evanston to the north and Pangwitch to the south and Wells and Elko that far east. I don’t ever remember going to a rodeo in Colorado so that was the area my dad rodeoed in. We used to travel a lot. He’d work during the week and then on the weekends I remember we’d get in the cars and go to rodeos. I remember the car was a 2 door car and I had a little bed on the floor, which they don’t allow that kind of stuff nowadays. I would sleep behind the driver’s seat, I had my own little bed there and sometimes I’d sleep up in the back window. We’d travel up and down Provo Canyon a lot I remember, because there’s a lot of small rodeos like Kamas, Oakley, Heber, Vernal, Duchene, Tabiona, all those places; it seemed like we’d come up to the Heber County a lot. BW: So you were probably traveling from rodeo to rodeo with a lot of other people that were familiar to you. What was that like as a kid? 5 GC: I didn’t know any different. I grew up as a kid basically once a week we would go to Mascaro which is a ___ producer here in Utah. They had a big ranch in what they call Rose Canyon, that’s in the southwest corner of Salt Lake Valley, and we would go up there. My dad got on his first bucking horse when he was twenty two years old. I remember as a kid we would go up there on the weekends and they’d run the horses off the hills and they were kind of ____ bucking string and people would bring them in. There was only so many people that would ride them and my dad was one of them. So we’d go up once a week and they would run the horses in off the mountain and you’d try riding them. BW: Did rodeo begin to feel like extended family? GC: Oh yes rodeo’s definitely extended family all of them. My little sister was probably more into it than I was. I broke my arm when I was 14 on a bull and that ended my career, I stayed away from it from that point on. My little sister went on to Miss Rodeo Utah and my dad at the time was president of the high school association so they rodeoed and traveled a lot. I also remember when I was young that they used to herd the horses off the lake mountains as well as the scarows and that. They had the old arena, not like the arena of today, the arenas were built so you could pull your cars all the way around them and that’s how you watched the rodeos. You pulled up in your car which was next to the fence, and you could drive all the way around it. Like I said I definitely remember the scarows. Another thing I remember was they used to have hundreds of goats. They used to have them come in and milk the goats. They’d be scattered all over the hillsides and 6 they’d get the Mexicans to come help them run the horses into the arena so that people could ride them. LR: So what was it like watching your dad rodeo when you were young? Can you tell us some stories about that? GC: Well as I think back, my dad used to take me a lot and he’d stick me on the back of the shoot, and when I was old enough, probably twelve years old or so, he’d have me pull his riggings. I probably went to two or three rodeos every weekend my whole life until I was probably 30 years old. I remember watching my dad ride a lot and another thing I remember about that rodeo situation was the involvement of bareback riding. One of the things my dad spent a lot of time at home when he wasn’t doing things, was working on his riggings. When he started, I don’t think it was just the strap across the horse, but it was kind of a rigging with the handle facing the back like bull rope. It was just a flat strap I remember that because like I said dad spent a lot of time in the evolution, if you want to call it, of the bareback rigging; going from a soft handle with just the strap to harder leather to rawhide to, I don’t know the name of it. Now they have a big rigging that sits up in the air and I actually remember, I think his name was Trujillo or something like that, came along. My dad rode so that they sat up on the horse because things evolved in bareback riding if you notice the way they ride now, they lay back on the horse and that’s because the rigging is built different and the handle’s high. So they can lay back, and I remember when this guy started riding that way he didn’t do very good at first but it’s a lot easier to ride the horses because the only thing you’re 7 focused on is your hand in the rigging. As he did that, it became more popular and more popular and now today that’s how everyone rides. When my dad rode bareback horses you used to have to sit up on the horse like a normal person sits on a horse and you start the horse and spur to the shoulder. This Trujillo changed it so that you would lay back and like I say I remember when he started he didn’t do very good, but the thing was is that it’s easier to ride the horse. He eventually started riding horses that were harder and harder to ride and as it evolved and they all ride that way now. One of the things I remember most about my dad was a ride that my dad made. Cotton Rosser had a horse called Shortcues and I don’t know if that horse is in the hall of fame. I don’t even know if they had halls of fames in those days, but if it wasn’t it should have been. I remember most about that horse was my dad had been on it twice and bucked off. I remember he had it at Nephi and anyway when he rode this horse at Nephi he actually got bucked off again, but he got bucked off on the last little bit of the 8 seconds because he was still flying up through the air. I remember when he got bucked off, because the horse stayed right in front of the shoot and jumped and spun. I remember everybody was screaming that he rode it because he’d been out about, I’m going to say forty-sixty times, nobody had ever ridden this horse and dad had come as close on that time to anyone that had ever ridden that horse. Again, I was probably ten-twelve years old. I still remember two years later that the announcer announced when my dad had come out on this horse that he was that man that was closest to ever riding this horse. Like I said it’s funny because even though he had won 8 several championships he was still noted as the closest guy to ever ride this horse. So I always thought that was unique and I was really proud of my dad when they announced that. I definitely remember that one particular ride. BW: So your dad would beat the national guys when they’d come through? GC: Sure, sure. Well he would compete with them and he’d win, yes. They rodeoed on things they called cards or permits and they could only win so much. My dad would fill his permit as far as I know, all the time. So that meant that he would get a card from the PRCA and then he could only win so much money and then he had to turn professional. BW: So he could’ve become national champion in your opinion? GC: Well sure I maintain that, but I’m his kid. No seriously, I remember Jim Shoulders standing outside of our house, leaning against the truck telling him, “Between me and you we can win a lot of money traveling down the road.” Like I said in those days it was only a 1/10th of what the money is today. I definitely remember that conversation and how much sleep I lost over the fact that he might be going. Yeah my dad could compete with any of them. BW: Do you think he ever regretted not going pro? GC: Yes and no. I mean there’s always moments in people’s lives. I mean another statement I heard my dad make, and I don’t know how necessarily to prove that but he was a member of the RMRA. That was the Rocky Mountain Rodeo Association and I remember my dad making the statement that he was either first or second and the only person that beat him out was a guy by the name of Ken Wilson which I’m sure will be in the Hall of Fame someday. He was either first or 9 second for twenty two years in that association. Lagoon had a rodeo, when Lagoon had rodeos, which ran for five-seven years, and my dad won those rodeos all the time. I think Lagoon had that rodeo every Saturday at 6 o’clock when I was a kid. Then we would jump in the car along with some of the other cowboys and go to the rodeo up in Heber or Kamas, Oakley, whatever, try to get two rodeos in one night. So I remember those days. LR: So how long did your dad rodeo? GC: My dad rodeoed for twenty six years. He actually was forty eight years old when he got on his last bareback horse. I had a younger brother that was following in his footsteps and doing good. He actually was traveling the PRCA circuit but he got killed and my dad got on one other horse at Lagoon. That horse slammed him in the fence and he said, “That’s it.” The only reason I think my dad stayed rodeoing that long was because he was enjoying my little brother Kam, rodeoing with him. My dad put a lot of people on horses over his life. When he died I guarantee you had at least one hundred people that come through the line that said he’d put them on their first horse. I always mention he was a high school coach and a college coach. He even knew people like Louie Fields, five time champion. I’m almost sure that my dad put him on his first horse. It’s funny because there were a lot of generations between me and him that come through and rodeoed. I think he decided to quit when, “I’m so stinking old that my own kids, I’m teaching them how to do it.” Each year there’d be a new group of three or four guys that would kind of travel with him to rodeos over the years that he actually put on their horses. 10 BW: So was it important for your father not just to do rodeo but to share it with the community and family. GC: Life with horses was my dad’s whole life. When he quit rodeoing he turned into a horse trainer, I mean horses was his life. When I grew up he used to break horses a lot. There used to be the sheriff’s palomino posse in Salt Lake City and I don’t even know if they still exist or not, but he used to break all these big palamino horses for the posse. They’d bring them down and I can still remember that because they’re just wild and crazy. So the wilder and crazy they’d bring the horse to my dad. It was a lot of horses that my dad would break that he’d be the only person that could ride it. I definitely remember there was a horse that my dad broke that a guy came in and said, “This might just be a one man horse.” My dad was about the only person I ever saw ride that horse. I don’t know what happened to it but he had four or five of those horses, as he broke horses over the years, that he was the only person that could ride the horse. Another thing that I forgot to mention in 1956 he was both the Bull Riding Champion of RMRA and the Bareback Riding Champion. So he did ride bulls also and he clowned a little bit. I remember my dad when he would clown he had a cane, like a walking cane, and he’d blow up all these balloons and he’d tie the balloons on the end of the cane. So instead of running in there like the guys do today and sacrifice their lives, he’d run in there and stick this cane full of balloons in the bull’s head or eyes or whatever you want to call it and get the cowboy away. That’s all evolved into the bull fighting and the things they do today. Another thing I remember about his clowning is I remember out to Tooele one 11 time a bull got his horn cut under his belt, hit him. The horn stuck under his belt and it flipped him around a few times and then all of sudden it flipped him and threw him up clear over the fence and on top of a car. I was probably about eight years old at that time, I remember him flying around and flying over there but I definitely remember after the rodeo we was all standing around, looking on the hood of this car and he caved it in from the bull throwing him over the fence. BW: Did your mom ever worry? GC: Oh yes, you know cowboys they’re a tough group of people. Whether my dad was hurt or not hurt he would ride, it didn’t matter. I don’t think my dad ever had a broken bone but I’m telling you he had bruises from top to bottom. I remember a bull got him one time and he was from his chest to his toes was solid black. I remember his leg got so bad that he actually took a pair of those scissors that you cut your toenails with and he cut the back of his leg because it was hard as a rock and he for three, four maybe five months, he would take a pair or tweezers and reach down deep into a hole in his leg and pull the blood clots out. I was with my dad when he went to the doctor, and when the doctor saw that, because my dad was the type that would never go to the doctor, when the doctor saw him do that, I can remember the doctor just having a fit. BW: I bet, oh that’s a tremendous story. So talk to me a little bit about the camaraderie between the cowboys. This is why I’m asking, in most sports there’s a pretty high level of competition, but it seems like in rodeo there’s a lot of camaraderie between those who compete against each other. 12 GC: Sure, it’s probably like most sports, you only become so good and then it’s the luck of the draw. So I think most boys realize that and I don’t think it matters what event, anywhere from calf roping to bull riding, it’s the luck of the draw. I think the philosophy is why not help the guy out all you can because tomorrow it might be me that gets to draw the good bull or horse or calf or steer, it doesn’t matter. So cowboys do have a close knit association. The ______ are really great people, and that was my dad’s competition. I mean 90% of the time when I would go to the rodeos either my dad won or Ken won. They were great friends. Ken Wilson spoke at my father’s funeral, even though he lived in Oakley and dad lived in Lehi, hardly seeing each other except on the weekends. I don’t know if they ever did anything but the competition was always there. Cowboys realize it’s the luck of the draw. I think that’s the difference with a lot of other sports, it’s just one on one and it’s just you against him. For example, basketball or football or whatever, but in rodeo you have to have the luck of the draw on whatever it is you’re going to ride or rope or whatever and tomorrow it’s going to be different. So I think that’s one of the big differences with the sport of rodeo. BW: Your father seemed to have a good reputation among all of them. GC: Sure, sure. My dad quit rodeoing at forty eight, died at seventy seven and for four hours I almost guarantee you it was nothing but cowboys that came through his line, honoring his death. BW: What do you think his favorite thing about rodeo was? 13 GC: Just the competition of trying to outride the horse I think. I would say that was probably his biggest goal. I know he loved the camaraderie. My dad was definitely was an extrovert. He worked at Geneva and he made no bones about what he thought or how he felt and he backed it up. My dad was a fighter as a kid and he was a fighter as an old person too. Some kid would swear or say the “F” word in front of a woman, my old man even at seventy years old, would walk up to him and tell him to shut his mouth or he was going to punch him and it actually happened once or twice. Back on that extrovert thing, something I remember is my dad, he worked in the blast furnace and the blast furnace was tapped. They’d make a big river of iron and they’d dam it off and run it out. Everyday my dad would walk in the changing room at Geneva Steel and he would yell out, “Head for the hills boys, the dam’s broke,” meaning, the changing room was below the furnace and if the dam broke you had hot metal running down all through the change room. So my dad did that every day. He went to Geneva for thirty seven years. BW: Now let’s talk a little bit about and you share the same name. Let’s talk a little bit about the name Gary Cooper and how much fun he had with that. GC: That was a different deal. I mean my dad and I are like, I look at one thing and he sees white and I look at it and I see black. Our personalities are a little bit different too. I’m more on the quiet, reserved side even though I tell people what I think most of the time, but dad he had no hesitation in telling them. It came in handy a few times, but not from my standpoint. Just because everybody that 14 rodeoed knew my dad. So anywhere you went, you’d say Gary Cooper, they’d say you’re not Gary Cooper. So we’d have to deal with that situation. BW: How did it become an advantage to your dad? GC: I remember one story about Gary Cooper, there’s a movie star named Gary Cooper that my dad was named after. I remember one time out at Elko, which I wasn’t there at the time, but there were some movie stars out there, and I forget what their name were. When they heard Gary Cooper was riding a horse and after he got off they all run down to the fence and then invited him over. They all had a big party that night with all these movie stars when I was a kid. BW: Yeah I also understand it helped him get registered a little more quickly from one of your sisters. When they would call in to get registered for a rodeo. GC: Sure, I mean well they were a lot younger, and it used to be a pain in the butt to get signed up for rodeos. Especially when I got old enough and married, I used to sit there and we’d all be on phones trying to get in. How they used to do it back in the old days was they used to have phone operators and everything else. So you’d call up and they’d say, “The lines busy.” Then you’d hang up and you’d call again and that’s how you would register for rodeos. You had to get in because once they filled the rodeo or stock they’d have so much stock and when it was signed up for that stock it was over. If you didn’t get in you didn’t get in. That’s something I hadn’t thought about for forty five years, but I remember endless hours of trying to get into rodeos. Especially when it got to the end of the year and trying to figure out how much money you had to win, and you had to get here and there. So he spent a lot of time calling. It was call hang up, call again. Those 15 operators would be so sick of doing it they’d say, “Why don’t you call back in an hour?” We’d say, “No because it’s first come first served.” So you’ve got to get in in the first few minutes. BW: So just a couple of more questions and then I think we’ll wrap it up. GC: You’re fine. BW: If your dad had an opportunity, if he was alive today and he had an opportunity to talk to some of the younger folks who are thinking about starting up rodeo, what advice do you think he’d give them? GC: I think he’d tell them to give it their all. I’m almost sure that’s what he’d say because I remember him giving the speech to all the kids that he’d put on bulls and horses and whatever. I’m sure that’s what the main advice would be, because the difference between riding and not riding is that little bit of extra hold on for that one second more. If you haven’t ever done it, it’s kind of hard to understand, but if you’ve ever done it you know exactly what I’m talking about. BW: What kind of industry advice do you think he might give? GC: I don’t know, I think the industry as a whole, I mean I could see and he could see where bareback riders are becoming less and less. Horses are becoming less and less, I really don’t know what to tell you. BW: Why do you think that is? That bare backing is maybe diminishing? GC: Well because it’s such a dangerous sport. I mean it’s not as dangerous as bull riding but it’s about as close as you can get. The only difference between why it’s not is because the bull turn and come after you whereas a horse will go away from you. Other than that I think people are just smarter. My honest opinion is 16 they created the four wheeler and once you own a four wheeler you don’t seem to go back to horses. BW: I see, okay so they’re going to truck shows now, is that what you’re saying? GC: Yeah them four wheelers, you can ride your horse to the top of a mountain and nothing irritates you worse is when you get to the top of the mountain there’s a little four wheeler up there that beat you up there. I think just horses as a whole, the industry’s declining, and I think a lot of it is that four wheeler. Anyway I don’t know what as far as industry goes, it’s a good sport. I’ve had kids that play football, basketball whatever and everybody lives in their own little world unless you live in the cowboy world, there’s nothing greater. You definitely make closer and better friends in the cowboy world than you do in a lot of the other worlds. When I say worlds I’m saying sport worlds. BW: I understand, it’s a shame to see it go away. I didn’t grow up around it, I grew up in Seattle, so this is kind of a new exposure for me. One thing I’ve really noticed from talking to a lot of people involved in the industry and also just a history of farming and ranching in general is that there really is this kind of spirit of unity and kinship and friendship. GC: Sure I mean it’s just like me or my dad if he’d see a horse or anybody with a horse it’s like their instant friends because that’s their world. It’s kind of, I imagine Michael Jordan feels the same way when he sees kids playing basketball. I’ve had kids that play football and when they have football camps, for my grandkids, now I go there and I see my boys relate to the people they play ball with and this and that. I see the camaraderie and the closeness, the feeling of we’ve been 17 there we’ve done that and the rodeo’s the same thing. It’s just like Jack Hannen, which I think you’re conducting him into the hall of fame this year too. I mean I was there when he did this thing, he was a great cowboy. It used to irritate my dad to no end that he would win all these all around saddles because bareback and bull riding only paid about a 10th of what the calf roping and the bull dogging did and the team roping. I actually don’t remember him team roping, but bull dogging and calf roping he was as good as they came. The thing was for every bareback rider there was 10 calf ropers and the same with bull doggers. So they paid more money. BW: Can you tell me what a bull dogger is? GC: A bull dogger and a steer wrestler are the same things. That’s where they turn the steer out and you go down and jump on its back, basically grab it by the head and turn it over. You have to have all four feet the same direction so you must be fairly new. BW: Yeah no I’ve never been to a rodeo so yeah this is new for me. GC: Yeah that’s what a bull dogger is. They call them bulls, but they’re really steers. They usually have bigger horns so you get two horses on the side of them. They have a haser, who lines the steer up and the guy that’s the bull dogger rides alongside and jumps down on the cow’s back and flips him over by grabbing ahold of his horns and his nose. BW: It takes some tough men. Alright well I appreciate your time. I think we’ve got some good stories here. 18 GC: Well I appreciate yours, I appreciate the work you’re doing and I’m glad he’s getting inducted. BW: Yeah so are we, so are we. 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