94 AUTOMATIC a year. But it is the and the repeating rifle. AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN. double-barreled shotgun that has done it This gun has not done it; and if you are going to prohibit the use of this gun you want to go a step further and go to the logical end. limit the number in the SHOTGUN. possession, shorten 95 the season (as almost every State in the Union has done), and control the sale, they have the killing of game controlled to as great an extent as it can possibly Now, I want to repeat what I have stated before, that these manu- be done at this particular time. This, gentlemen, is along the line of game protection. My friend Shields comes here and tells you that he has expended It is to their interest, within constitutional and practical limitations. Of course I do not deny your authority and your power, but I say that your local legislative bodies in these Territories are better able | will tell you that that is absolutely true; but at the same time he has facturers are in favor of the protection of game; it is their very life. to judge of the existing conditions in their Territories as to whether legislation of this character is demanded. If you are going to encroach upon their legislative prerogative and say that this thing shall not be done in these Territories, regardless of whether they want this legislation or not, why, gentlemen, how much further can you go? How much further ought you to go? If there were no legislative body with power to enact laws of this character, then the situation would be different. But they have such a body, constituted for that precise purpose; and why should these people come here and trouble Congress with such a matter, that almost every State in the Union has repudiated. I have only one further suggestion to make, and that is this: That it is not fair to that gentleman who sits over there, who has devoted his life as an inventor to the improvement of American mechanical contrivances, and States has issued Winchester to whom the great a patent upon Repeating Arms Government this gun. Company I want of the United to say that the does not manufacture this gun which is aimed at here; it is manufactured by the Remington Company on the patents of that gentleman, and the Government has issued a patent to him, and you are practically going to deny to him the benefit of his life work and his study in improving American contrivances in advancing the cause of the American manufacturer; and I say it is not fair. It is not fair when there is a better and more practical means of protecting the game of the country by means of limitation of bag and season within the limits of the Constitution. In every State of the Union they have protection of that character, and I think the matter should be left to those States. I think that is substantially what I have been requested to present. STATEMENT Mr. Marsuany. OF MR. TOM MARSHALL. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, I am an employee of the Remington Arms Company, the people that manufacture this gun, and I am known as the expert shot that they send out over the country to demonstrate the efficiency of the gun, or the working qualities. As regards Mr. Shields, we are special and particular friends, and we have traveled, I suppose, in a dozen different States and Territories together this season, contesting this bill, and I meet Mr. Shields here to-day exactly on the same grounds. This is a business proposition. Mr. Shields is in this as a business proposition, which I will explain to you in a moment. I am in this as a business proposition, as an employee of the Remington Arms Company. which manufactures this gun. We oppose this bill for the reason that it is unjust and unnecessary as a matter of game protection, because if they limit the bag, and ' $15,000 of his own money in the protection of game. Gentlemen, I - éxpended this $15,000 he has gathered in from the dear people of this '¢ountry by contributions $100,000. I do not know whether Mr. | Shields knows how much it has been himself. He tells you about the rganization of the League of American Sportsmen, of 20,000 memers. I am not a member of that association. That is the only gold | brick that I have not purchased. [Laughter.] But a member of that association before the legislative committee in Albany, N. Y., said: “* Gentlemen, I am a member of the League of American Sportsthen, and it is organized just as you formerly organized the ‘ Buffaioes’ of this country.” He says—Mr. Shields is the great protective means of this organization— You are asked to join the League of American Sportsmen, and the fee is a dollar. You write on to Mr. Shields, send your dollar, and he says, ‘I am the president of this association, and you are a member, and I have got your dollar,’ and that is all there is of it.” Mr. Shields says that it is from no financial interest that he comes here and represents this bill. I cite you to the list of donators as named in his March magazine, and that shows how in the last month he has gathered together $400 from all quarters of the world, by rep- resenting the automatic gun as the great destroyer of game birds and animals. I am satisfied that he could get a subscription from each and every one of you gentlemen if you could hear his pathetic word picture, and he has amassed in the last month about $400 (carpenters’ wages—better than the union scale) ; and why would he not come here before you at a small expenditure to advocate this bill when it is to his personal, private interest, and a matter of business remuneration to him, every donation he secures? He tells you about Mr. Hornaday, of the Zoological Gardens of New York. Gentlemen, I am acquainted with this gentleman, who appeared before a legislative committee in New Jersey the other day, and when I said, “ Mr. Hornaday, did you ever see an automatic gun?” he said “ No; I never did.” I said, “ Did you ever see one shot?” to which, of course, he said “ No.” But, nevertheless, Mr. Hornaday went before that committee and strongly opposed it, when he had never seen an automatic gun. And now Mr. Shields quotes to you from Mr. Hornaday here. I want to say to you that we use the word “ automatic ” simply as a trade-mark, simply to designate it as different from the Winchester pump gun, and the Remington guns, as a gun which we have just put upon the market. I want to say to you that this gun is absolutely under the control of the operator at all times. It is impossible to discharge a shot from this gun without pulling the trigger. Another thing that Mr. Shields cites to you is the punt and swivel gun, which is a gun loaded with an excessive amount of powder and a very heavy load of shot, and you have to rest it upon something, as you can not hold it up; you turn loose into a flock of birds with that; you can