which would make Weber and Snow Colleges branches of the University of Utah. After much discussion state-wide, no legislation passed the 1929 legislature concerning junior colleges. The Church Commissioner of Education, Dr. Joseph F. Merrill, met with the Weber faculty during the winter and spring of 1929 to update them on the Church position. Merrill also met during this period with the College Trustees. Merrill suggested that the Church had gone public on the junior college issue specifically noting proposed closing dates to get the legislature to move to take over the colleges. President Tracy and the faculty suggested to Merrill that Weber be given an extension of one year from the proposed June 1930 closing date. At a faculty meeting held on April 2, 1929, the faculty learned that the executive committee of the General Church Board of Education consisting of Adam S. Bennion, Richard R. Lyman, David O. McKay, Joseph F. Merrill, and Stephen L. Richards had met the day before and recommended to the First Presidency that Weber continue for two more years. The executive committee suggested that perhaps the tithe payers of these seven stakes may be asked to increase their tithing a little. The Weber faculty were told that the biggest problem facing the junior college bills in the legislature was opposition from the southern part of the state. In his closing remarks to the faculty in the spring of 1929, Tracy suggested that he had traveled to junior colleges in several western states and I am pleased with the general spirit of school this year. Our school is not behind any of the schools I visited in the three states, Tracy went on to say it is My plea to you to praise this school. It is worthy of it. His final comment to the faculty was that the appropriation for the next school year had been reduced and so no books for the library would be purchased. To Tracy and the faculty, the issue was keeping Weber afloat knowing that support from the Mormon Church would shortly be withdrawn and student recruitment was a continuing problem. As discussion concerning the destiny of Weber continued, classes and activities also moved forward. By the Fall of 1928, Webers football team had enjoyed much success and had been invited to play McKinley High School in Honolulu, Hawaii on December 28, 1928. The Church Board of Education had sanctioned the trip but did not agree to any financial support for the trip. At a devotional assembly held on October 9, 1928 the formal announcement of the trip to Hawaii was made by studentbody president George Williams. Other participants in the assembly included Al Warden, sports editor of the Standard Examiner, W. Karl Hopkins, superintendent of Ogden City Schools; Frank Francis, mayor of Ogden; Fred Williams, Ogden City councilman; and Fred G. Ruthrauff, passenger agent for the Southern Pacific Railroad Company. Ruthrauff quoted as prices for the trip: San Francisco and return 44.25, lower 9.00, upper 7.20; Ship Wilhelmina 190.00 to Honolulu and return. The students, the faculty, and townspeople all seemed excited about the trip, but some had questioned the role of football and athletics at the College. In his remarks at the assembly, President Tracy asked: Why do we promote athletics in this institution? There are many reasons. I have heard it said that Weber College is a Football school. This remark hurt me more than any other which has come. This is not a Football school. It always stands for scholarship. Our boys win because our coach takes them into the mathematics room and explains each play on the blackboard. It is won by intelligence and not by physical power. This is not an athletic institution in the sense that we pay attention to this and this only. What is the aim of education? Is it to want to come here two years and then get a job? Two years and then get a position? A position is necessary, but then that isnt all. You come here to school to make contacts, to enlarge the soul. The aim of education is intellect. Tracy announced that the school orchestra would go to Honolulu with the football team; that the debate team would travel to Missouri; and that the drama program would present plays at Utah Agricultural College and at Brigham Young University. The trip to Hawaii took nearly a month, most of it during December for the 38 representatives of Weber. Weber lost to the Micks of McKinley High School, 13 to 7. Merlon Stevenson, the football coach, had taken a years leave to further his education, and the 1928 team was coached by Delton Bramwell who had played for Weber in 1926. Stevenson joined the Weber group in California and traveled to Hawaii with them. This trip to Hawaii would begin a long-lasting relationship and exchange of athletic events between Ogden and Hawaii. Several devotional assemblies during 1928-1929 were forums for expression concerning the fate of Weber College. The views of most were opposed to any union with the University of Utah and for an independent college in Ogden named Weber. At the March 1, 1929 devotional, the Lewis Extemporaneous speaking contest was held with Norman Bingham, Blaine Ramsden, Charles Allison, Grant Syphers, Vernon Allen, and Dorothy Foulger all speaking against legislation which would submerge the entire identity of Weber. Debate coach Leland Monson reported to the students and faculty that Weber debaters had done very well in debates held at the Colorado State Teachers College, Greeley, Colorado; the State Teachers College in Hays, Kansas; Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri; Central Wesleyan College, Warrinton, Missouri; Shurtliff College, Alton, Illinois; and Crane Junior College, Chicago, Illinois. At the December 5, 1929 College Trustees meeting, President Tracy reported that the debating department under the direction of Leland Monson had scheduled nearly 100 debates in New England, the Northwest, and in California during the year and the cost of the program was set at 1,200 for the year. Tracy also noted that a debate team from the University of Southern California would visit Weber during the year for a series of debates. It was later reported that the Weber debating teams won two-thirds of their more than ninety debates during the 1929-1930 year and that seventy-five percent of the debates were with four year schools. Although debating societies had been a part of Weber since its earliest days, under Professor Monson, the debate teams traveled widely throughout the United States and had many important successes. During 1929-1930 the Weber debaters held debates in 37 states and in 1930-1931, they debated in 36 states. Some of the debaters included Jetta Barker, Alice Sorenson, Fawn McKay, Harriet Wooley, Bob Marschell, Dawson Hales, Elmer