SECTIONB OGDEN, UTAH, FRIDAY EVENING, OCTOBER Weber Will Try Again for Limited Four-Year College 17,. 1953 i Building Wor This Fear Hott at New Eatipis” The president made it official¢the Legislature in eight seeee-( peepee $94,500 in the next bi-+ A. — The things Utah needed today. Weber College will lay its | Twice before, bills to give Og- | ennium to take care of the ex- done worst in the way of éonstrucpansion? case for a four-year charter—‘“a | den’s tion have been taken care of. And junior institution another | limited four-year charter’—before A.—That’s it. We already have 11 million dollars has the State Legislature again in 1953. ‘couple of years in specified fields | the buildings. All we have to do is although been spent. to clean up what you have been defeated when victory That’s for sure. use them. might call a backlog of construcSome pretty unmistakable signs seemed almost within grasp. Q.—Well, just for the sake of tion projects, right at this moment “We hope this time will be the have indicated right along that argument, supposing enrollment the state building fund has a $1,clearly the campaign for a four- charm,” the president sai went up considerably more than 884,000 surplus. “Abraham only had to wait year Weber hadn’t been given up the college is anticipating. What Goy. Lee says in his pamphlet, seven years for: Rachael and she for lost in spite of two setbacks. then? Higher taxes? “The Lee Record,” that more dolThe big question in most observ- couldn’t possibly have looked as A. — We hear that argument lars have been put into construc: er’s minds has never been “Will good to him as a four-year college everywhere we turn and it’s per-| tion and improvement projects in would jook to the youth it would they try again?” but “When?” President Henry Aldous Dixon serve.’ (haps the weakest of all against | the last.three years than in the 20 The first four-year bill was inanswered with his announcement the proposal. Utah never had a) years before that. today that strong forces behind troduced in the 1947 session at | fatter pocketbook in history. Tax | Describes Training State Capitol. Legislators the move will go down the line the revenues are up one-third since | Q.—Just what kind of training turned it down by a hairline in °53 for a four-year Weber. 1950. The state is getting about could a student get at a Weber majority. $4 now for every $3 it collected State College, President Dixon? ' Third Attempt . Two years later plenty of two years ago in taxes. The tota A.—Enough schooling to become} It will be their third trip to strength was rolled up to push this year was 47 million dollars. a teacher (and we’re critically} another measure through both Q.—Aren’t state costs just that short on teachers), or to go into House and Senate with votes to i much higher too? business, or industry, or nursing spare, Goy. J. Bracken Lee scrapor homemaking. But not enough to} A.—That question was answered ped the proposal a second time two months ago when the state be a doctor or a lawyer. with a “can’t afford it” veto. abolished entirely its property tax. Q.—What kind of a degree would| “We have held off since then,” Dr. Dixon said, “as the governor|. Last year the state levy was ¥.7 a student get on graduatiuun day? mills. This year there is no tax. in the} A—Bachelor Degrees suggested in that part of his veto The state had to be in healthy things just mentioned and in Arts message which said ‘it well may be financial condition to do such a and Sciences. You see Weber Colthat in the future, under more ing. lege wouldn’t offer any of the cost-) favorable financial conditions, the ly research and graduate courses action contemplated under this Graduates Earn More (four-year) bill should be taken.” There’s a logical reason why Q@.—How about this: are there the professional schools such.as the, AC and the nie of Utah “That time,” the pes assamme esuee things Ufah shou Provo, Salt Lake City and Logan Ok ’ citizens might cock an anxious eye- serted, “is now.” brow at the prospect of a four- It’s About ‘Time’ year Weber College. “It’s about time . that Weber n Even a limited four- -year Weber County got a little better share of | A ——The education of AneHosh Q.—Isn’t that a sort of duplicaCollege. the state tax dollar. We’re paying |’ youth has made this country great. Wouldn’t it noticeably thin out in one-fourth of all that Utah col-|: Everyone knows it. A society that tion? Aren’t the same courses althe student population in ivy-cov- lects in taxes and getting back|: is morally strong, advancing and ready set up at other Utah colever halls at the University of 10 cents on the dollar for higher |' growing culturally is a society that leges and universities? + A few short months ago this was just a hillside. The buildings, pic- + has educated its young people. Utah, Brigham Young University education.” A.—Yes, the same courses are tured here in various stages of co nstruction, were begun on the new and Utah State Agricultural ColNothing is more important. taught at four-year colleges all over Lake City, Logan or Provo. On a “Cache County, by comparison, Weber College campus early last spring. Students will occupy their lege? gets back $1.40 to use the same new classrooms next fall. Q.—Aside from his value to the the nation. But where Weber would ratio basis, this area has about 12 “It’s a fair question,” Weber way for every dollar it pays in.” community, or to society, is it real- have only three divisions of study, jcbs to every student. Salt Lake College President Henry Aldous Most important of all, the apparge four-year institutions ly worth it to a youngster fresh the City has less than 10. Logan and Dixon agrees, “but the answer is pe need for a four-year college out of high school to enter col- have 1 emphatically ‘No’.” here has. not been met. Nor has ne “es definitely no duplica- Provo have barely more than one lege? There are plenty of jobs “We want to add these other the problem been solved by passtion. You aren’t duplicating when each. around. Why not just take one? two years to bring in the 400 Og- ing the buck from Legislature to Q—lIs there anything about the A.—There’s no doubt that for you bring young men and women den area students who have had perslature or refusing to face the some young people several years into college who can’t afford an} | proposed Weber College that would ac to skip college entirely each year in college isn’t worth the time. education any other way simply: be- save the state’ money? One new paragraph in Utah statbecause they simply haven’t had Exactly what Weber College has cause they haven’? the money to But everyone should have enough A—Besides being an investment Construction is almost at the+ing. They will have to foot the the money to go away from home,” in mind was outlined in sharp deutes would put Weber College on schooling to develop character and live away from home and pay for that would pay the state back half-way point on the new Weber tail during a question and answer he said. cultural appreciation. We call it college training. There are still a few wrinkles a four-year footing. many times in finer, bettertrained interview with the president that College campus east of Harrison Drop in the Bucket an. enlightened citizenry. It is also Many Students Nearby | to iron out, Mr. Baddley conA simple amendment would turn people, a four-year Weber would went somewhat as follows: where five buildings fessed. Surface drainage, sidewalks,’ true that college graduates are What few might give up the Q.—In that same connection, is Sieinats the need to build dormi- Boulevard the trick. Q. — How much money would ealrning more, about twice as there any other way Weber could tories for Ogden youngsters going have sprung up almost overnight curbs and gutters and a little levelether three institutions in favor The present law reads: College require, say in muuch a year, than those who didn’t save the student money? of Weber wouldn’t be a drop in Weber on what was once a brush-choked ing have to be taken care of. away to school. “There shall be at Ogden City comtinue on. the bucket compared to their to- 1953, to add the upper division And keep in:mind. It costs the hillside. Rotary Donates Gateway A—Well, the cost here with courses? (Q—What can a college graduate tal enrollment. a state school to be known as WeWallace Baddley, college build- | everything figured in, including state just as much to educate an | Much of the area has been exxpect to earn in the way of a salThe registrar’s records show, he A.—As nearly as we can tell, see would figure about $460 Ogden boy or girl in Salt Lake ing superintendent, estimates that |/sodded and built-in sprinklers are ber College, a junior college. ‘The aryy each year? said, that between June 1, 1951, about 150 would enroll the first early. You’ve got to have at least Cit yor Logan as it would right the project is about 40 per cent |taking care of the watering pro- course of study therein shall be and May 31, 1952, only 172 asked year. The cost would be $31,500, along. A.—About the latest thing on $L 000 a year anywhere else, not here at home. gram. The Ogden Rotary Club limited to the first two years of for a transcript of their Weber same as if the same students went “We'll be ready to take in thaat was a study made by the Sci- counting what it costs to live away Q—One thing more. It’s being came through with a handsome College credits so they could trans- to the University of Utah or the classes next fall,’ he said today, $25,000 entrance marker and Ki- college work...” And so on. ennce Research Associates. They from home or to drive. said that ‘Weber College just fer to the Utah U. Fewer than 100 Utah State Agricultural College. “although some of the finishing wanians fonund that in 1947 non-college peoRun rough favorable legislaset up a_ beautification wants to get its foot in the door.” —Do many Ogden students went to each of the other two work inside may have to be taken Q.—And after that? plde were averaing about $2200 a tive hoppers, the amended statute That sooner or later “A full-blown und. really drive long distances now? colleges, he said. care of after classwork begins.” yeear. Young men and women with A.—It’s a case of simple mulltiMore has to be done on land- would give the Ogden center of A.—About one in five. Most|¥ university is what the people of Most would have made the same A heating plant, designed to depgrees were getting on the averlearning a new name — Weber plication. In the second year anscaping,’ however. What about don’t if they can help it because Ogden will want.” transfer if Weber already had a allow for future expansion on the other 150 would register in the|| agge $4689, Access roads haven’t been put State College —- and would speci: it’s too dangerous, just as ex- that? limited charter. The classes they eye-pleasing 182-acre tract between Stzate Spending Less junior and senior classes, bringing The state will have fy that A.—That has never been the in- 36th and 40th Streets, is ready in yet either. pensive as living away, and exwent away to get wouldn’t be “The course of study therein the total up to 300. So we would help. out on that one, Mr, (Q.—There are those who say| tremely time consuming, : tention. Weber College is and will for use right now, Mr. Baddley taught here. shall be the first two years of colneed twice as much money: Baddley said. Utah is alseady spending too much | But supposing, for the sake. of $63,000. 2g about the students ‘Temain a community college with said, Weber ‘County Com@issioners lege work and in addition. thereto on, education. How about that? only limited upper division work. argument, they had gone away. The four classroom buildings spelled out the answer o would have to drive te a Wesaid college is hereby empowered to one Q.—How long would the college A compact and efficient un it, wA.—You ean go to the Utah | bee. 2 State College? What are 200 students to a uniwhich have taken rapid form since problem when they agreed to open to offer four years of college trainkeep doubling like Pu veead ourr cacds on abe table pre Sclhool Survey for the answer boere. versity that can count more than Topueten geround ores De ceremon- a road to the stadium grounds ing in the fields of arts and sciea at's, one.of -the fine fea-|_ art sl }O: Se nthe | 7,000 heads on its campus? 0 ) youths com-~|from about 42nd Street. Work ences, education and vocational A.—Just in the first two years. What would really happen in the on Heeke eit heain in vember. A/training to include business, inour total state income a best survey we can make|! long haul, he said, is that more, The in 25 Tifler of our “campus. Any| Roots Before Snow whole new housing area is going dustry, nursing and homemaking, didd way hack in 1930. The state rather . than — fewer,.....education- shows that 400 students would like’ waiS giving almost 4 per cent of. student could travel that far every Roofs will be put on two before to open up as a result. to confer bachelor degrees in these hungry youths from this section to take upper division training but itsi Wealth to the schools then. We day, have a job on the side and still the snow flies so that workmen Only day school students will fields and to offer all necessary In the early years of World War ace up with the class. About 12) would polish off their studies in can’t afford it until Weber is a gett by on 2.5 per cent now. can continue the project through be routed up to the new campus courses of study upon which such four-year college. Eventually we er cent of the state population iI lights in the Weber College voca- cold winter months. Salt Lake, Logan or Provo degrees are based.” for a time at least. And most of were never Q.— What about construction . right here in Weber County. ~ tional department “Weber would become a ‘feeder’ would have at least that many and The architect laid out modern- these will return to the downtown It would then add that “said i off. The College operated io the other three just as it be- more, Every. year college enroll- projects. State construction, that is. Jobs More Plentiful round the clock for three years. istic structures when a new Weber grounds for afternoon gymnasium School shall be maintained by the Are there any that should be taken ment everywhere is going up. eame a ‘feeder’ when first estabollege was still on the drafting and laboratory classes, he said. state.” Q.—What about jobs? Can col- Three thousand mechanic learners care of before Weber gets the ‘Just Use Buildings’ lished.” board. All are single story except After that an appropriation Night students will continue on money it needs to go into four- lege students find them in Ogden?) were trained to meet the critical “Living at home, the 400 who the uppermost, a physical science where they are. That ‘is, unless the would have to be approved, earQ.—Then Weber College would A.—Much easier than in | demand for defense workers. are excluded from college train- ask the State Legislature to oP yest work? building, which is two. Pleasing to enrollment keeps piling up. “We marking $94,500 to initiate and puring now could work their way the vision, each structure is may have to split them too, if it sue upper division work through © through school—particularly since adapted to make best use of natur- does,” he concluded. the next two years. it would cost less than half as al lighting. much—and save up enough money A total of 42 rooms are included. besides to go away for the graduOf that total 25 will be lecture ate training the professions deInstead, he ‘came *to Ogden “ -We'll have just as much fun andthere permanently after that ex- rooms, the balance administrative The earnest, soft-spoken man¢+ mand.” gpi4 in his high button shoes and we'll be getting an education. at the cept for his father who persuaded offices and laboratories. Only teachers and students in the who has twice been -president. of saarched -eollar, with a teaching Planners made the most of the vocational division would leave a Weber College, who took his first copntract under one arm, a four- same time’,” the president remem- him to reconsider Provo’s offer to natural land contour, spacing the make him _ superintendent of brick buildings just far enough limited four-year Weber College yefar Liberal Arts degree from bers with a smile. sufficiently trained to begin ca- job at Weber Academy and who pritigham Young University under Earns Master’s Degree apart so that they appear as a schools in 1920. It’s only a 2-year-old in the t. ohied” are operated by remote reers. 9 has championed the cause of a fie other, and a broad, beaming “T turned them down,” the presi- single, majestic structure from the That’s how Ogden’s most famous eyes of the law — but Weber control and limited to specialty entranceway. four-year College like no one else, smMile to hide the doubts. It Adds Up College wears training pants cut educator came to spend the, next dent remembers, “because I loved lectures courses which in the An all-new campus isn’t the only } Henry Aldous Dixon, 24, educatSo, it adds up. The more who shouldn’t, by all odds, have beto fit a 4-year-old all the same. But the very next year at the University of Chicago Ogden so much. pleasant prospect-in store for stumain do not go toward a degree. or! had arrived. hustled through a four-year Weber, come an educator at -all. The University of Utah and day father came to see me and and several summers after that dents at Ogden’s lower division As : things worked out, he finalthe more higher learning centers Utah State Agricultural College Teachers, sent by the parent... wanted me to come home. He said The cards were stacked against | college in the fall of ’53. 4 did give eight years to banking earning a Master’s Degree. . would have to draw from. sent the garments along, clearly institutions, travel to Weber colI'd been away too long.” Winters, he taught Weber AcadSomething else. Weber is not it. By the rules of the game,. he wetter his father died. But it wasn’t recognizing that Ogden had outlege as many times a week as the Provo kept Dr. Dixon for 17 Stadium Will be Ready seeking a four-year curriculum in was cut out to be either a banker paaprticularly by choice and it’s get- emy students German. Then World years. grown its educational bib. class meets. They spend two _ More than likely the new stadThe first four and the last tin®g ahead of the story. War I came along and German was five he was superintendent. Dur- ium will be ready to see service pre-legal and pre-medical courses, or businessman. hours on the road for every one So clearly, in fact, that each How, then, did it come off oth(Out of his first year’s pay, the not spoken in the best circles. In| ing the eight years between he by then. That means the football forestry training, agriculture and institution tailored special they teach, and the state foots erwise? Well, he'll tell you himpung teacher tucked away a not the end the class folded up enmany other highly — specialized classes to fit an “adopted” child the extra expense. served as managing vice president squad will be working out and fields, he said. The two-year self, “It’s just because I was stub- incConsiderable sum of $300 — al- tirely. sheltered under another roof. A couple of Weber instructors the Farmers and Merchants playing on its own field for the Executives at. BYU, who had Bank. F courses taught now would continue born and wanted to do something most a third of his $1,000 salary. That’s how the extension dikeep things running smoothly in Directors asked him to take first time in Weber College hison my own.” It honeymoon money. He never lost track of their bright the job soon after his father died. Sane vision came to be set up at Weon. the extension division. Harold So he ignored a ready-made job graduates, lured him away in 1918 Comes now the surprise— ug ber College. It regularly draws The question marks right now Bateman takes care of USAC Came Back to Ogden Utah’s colleges and universities beside his father, a cashier and Meat the pretty, level-headed girl —only to see him appointed the 300 to 600 Ogden area students extension work. Edward Chrisare overhead lights and access large stockholder in the Provo w}20 gave him her hand in June of | following fall at the tender age It was in 1937, the same year are plainly too big as it is, Dr. hungry for higher education, entensen represents the U, : roads, Mr. Baddley said. \ Farmers and Merchants Bank, and g/15 had ideas of her own. of 29 as president of Ogden’s two- the University of Southern CaliforDixon said. rollment.records show. Weber College provides space Situated in a magnificent naturnia gave him his Doctor’s Degree, al bowl, the stadium “She told me, ‘Aldous, let’s take year institution. A 24man advisory board to for the training, opens its library - The best study yet, made by the shrugged off tempting. offers ‘from will seat several uncles-in the ee 8 that he returned to Ogden as Wenat money and go back to college. Likely, he would have stayed on Survey Committee of California in doors to the students and even 3,700 next season, 15,000 ultimate- “Weber ‘College analyzed the ex| ‘ber College president, an office he ly, he explained. Half will be ce1948, the president disclosed, found business. tension program and found it stocks special books for their has held since. that 5,000 enrollment is the absohelpful — but: wanting. ---}-: use. But beyond that its position ment poured, half metal. Vigorous, ruddy-cheeked and in lute maximum any college can hanThe courses in upper division } is hardly more than a favorSpace-wise Weber will be a condine health, the president carries tented college for some years to or graduate work, the board redle efficiently and economically. ably- disposed onlooker, — He keeps the come, Mr, Baddley said, with one sf is 62 years. ebtly. After that ceiling is passed, it’s é better all the way around — and just as cheap—to build new colymna . an up | leges. Building expensive new ter of the prese t campus. their sleeves there. For two years wings and multiplying the staff Despite a busy schedule that they’ve been trying to take possesdoesn’t save a dime. frequently requires split-second sion of an immense surplus hangar “Even if Ogden didn’t have a ‘timing, he keeps up a close per-4 Wendover donated to the college college, it would be just as insonal contact with the students just before the trouble in Korea. expensive to build one here from Branch Agricultural College, a and rare is the freshman who does * Ogden isn’t the only city its It’s the perfect answer. the ground up as to go on exnot know the head man after a junior college until a few years size in the West without a fourWith a total outlay of $150,000, panding the present senior instiweek in college. back, was handed on a silver plata fraction of its worth, the gigantic year college. ; tutions,” he emphasized. _ The church and community have steel structure could be dister an expansion very similar. to Why? Pueblo, Colo., doesn’t have one always called heavily on his serv- mantled, moved and reassembled Brigham Young University anwhat Weber asks. ; either. ices. He was bishop of the Provo on the East Bench grounds. nounced this week that 6,857 have Third Ward, Latter-day Saints Its parent institution, Utah State On the other hand, 25 WestCash Left Over signed up for the current fall Church, for seven years and has Agricultural College, simply made ern cities in the same populaterm: A whopping 7,507, the UniAnd enough cash would be left served on the LDS General Sunday the change. No legislative sanction tion bracket do, according to versity of Utah reports, are going over to build brick quarters School Board: since 1942. was required. to college in Salt Lake City. No both sides, solving the Dean Gardner, a graduate in law Twice the Provo Chamber of against In 1950-51 there was one student figures have been released from Commerce made him its president. problem of shop, gymnasium and at the four-year BAC for every from Stanford University, who Logan, but the USAC regularly He held the equivalent office in laboratory space. four put through their ‘ mental did a lot of checking around. takes in about 4,000. “We have reason again to be Ogden in 1940 and is an active paces in Weber College classrooms. Mr. Gardner, a political and hopeful about this development,” Rotarian. Work a Hardship Idaho saw the light soon after social science instructor, came he said. “Signs from Wendover The list of Dr. Dixon’s profesWorld War II ended and estab“Big” -colleges. and universities sional achievements and recogni- indicate that the idle hangar may up with another eye-opener. lished a Southern Branch of the work a hardship on the students, tions is long. Foremost of these ne released to the college before University of Idaho at Pocatello. he added. There is no chance for Sixty-one communities smaller ong was his appointment to President Its limited charter is almost exindividual attention. Worse still than Ogden in the 11 Western The entire project, lock, stock Truman’s Commission on Higher ae what boosters are hoping for the competition for jobs is keen states send their youngsters to only Education and more recently to the and barrel, has cost Utah ere. and a student working his way advisory board of the U. S. Office about $1, 400, 000 to date. The beausenior colleges right in town or through hasn’t much of a chance. of Education. tiful site was purchased several Living costs are usually higher, not more than 10 miles away. years ago with $65,000 generous He has been president of the 75 Cents Out of $100 too. Weber College has more stuUtah Conference on High Educa- Ogden citizens gave and $50,000 The University of California Out of éach $100 Utahns spend dents than three out of every tion and of The Northwest Associa- Utah tossed in to make up the caught on quick and right now is annually for liquor, only 75 cents alance. four four-year ‘colleges in the tion of Junior Colleges. urging the establishment of strawould have to be set aside to make “grounds any diy of the week and more likely than not you'll see Two technical books on education A time will come, Mr. Baddley whole nation, the U. S. Office tegically located four-year “feedup the $94,500 that upper division lent Henry Aldous Dixon, right, is one educator who believes in written by the president have been believes, when students will want er” colleges almost identical with Take a stroll on tie Weber Colle of Education reported in a surwork at Weber College would cost something just about like this. Presigfim are Paul Furlong, Dick Keller and Joan Standing, left to right. | published, to put up a Student Union Build- vey published last month. the four-year college Weber hopes in the next two years. frequent contact with students. With | to, become. Would 4-Year Weher College . Hurt Others? Would Do Trick ot 3 = jars — Construction at New Campus Is Nearing Halfway Poini ‘Slight Alteration In Utah's Laws [Never Shut Lights Off Odds Were All ‘Against Dr. Dixon Becoming an Educator Weber's a 2-Year-Old but Wears 4- Year-Old’ s Pants Pueblo's H aving Same Troubles BAC |Got 4 Years As a ‘Handout’