12 of credibility. They're all statistics that are available to anyone that wants to go to the trouble of pulling them together from a number of Federal sources and we highlight some of these statistics with specific case histories drawn from the member companies of the Roundtable so that the take on a meaningful and, let's say, clearly delineated stance for anyone that is reviewing legislative language and after developing these position papers and presenting them, I'm quite often called upon to appear as a witness before Governmental bodies and I've already, in just the first few months of this year, appeared before the House Ways and Means Committee, the Senate Finance Committee, the Senate Budget Committee, and last year I appeared before all those committees at least once and sometimes two or three times. The Joint Economic Committee, I've appeared before that, and so on, and when you obviously appear as a witness before one of these committees quite frequently one of the Congressmen or Senators will say, well, now I'd like to know a little more about this, so you have to develop some more data and go see him individually and give him the information that he wishes. We also make these position papers available to the Executive Branch of the Government and this has involved us in discussions