73 gather you're not the primary customer, for example, of these product... JONES: No. CARR: (Over talk) (low voice - not clear). Well, I'd like to come back to the point you raised and that is Mr. Littlefield's presentation and his thinking that raised the question that his company was concerned with being in one concentrated, in one country, and really mostly in one (not clear) but why is it that that's more attractive if you share that risk? Why is it less of a concern to you or to you together? JONES: Well, because its magnitude in relation to the total portfolio is so substantially reduced, so substantially reduced in relation to the total portfolio and the fact, as I've said, that we hope to be in a position where we can advance some of the other interests that Utah has perhaps somewhat more quickly than they could on their own so that we can increase the diversification to a measure within Utah itself at a more rapid rate, let's say. CARR: These are things like, such as you mentioned before, new development, opening development of new mining, coal, coking coal.