63 and Compensation Committee of our Board of Directors generally meets at eight o'clock in the morning before the Board meeting at a breakfast meeting and I like to get all the papers ready before that and I generally make sure I've had my breakfast before that because I don't have that much time to eat while I'm presenting all these matters to them on which they have to take action and I suspect that it was the fact that Ed and I were just in the hotel together. CARR: That morning? JONES: No. No. It wouldn't have been... CARR: Oh, the night before. JONES: ...the night before that he began this discussion. CARR: And were you immediately interested in the sense of interested in knowing more? JONES: Very much so because this very definitely fit with the thoughts I'd had how we wanted to position General Electric Company increasingly in these areas. I've been concerned as we've indicated in these papers you've already read not only with the materials positioning of the Company, the international positioning of the Company, but