65 much in our minds. Obviously, this was an opportunity to provide us with a substantial hedge in that direction. CARR: This was the first thing this was your initial kind of... JONES: Well, it was all three of those things; the materials, the international and the inflation hedge, but you know I can encapsulate it all in one thing and that's the bottom line. You know, I can see that this could advantage the General Electric shareowner in terms of the bottom line. CArR: Well, I was intrigued and, again, I think it's not so much skepticism as just being interested in hearing a little more about one thing and that was, you said in explaining this to the Security Analysts that Utah International's operations would help us to build customer acceptance in places like Australia and Brazil and Japan and Europe. JONES: Yeah. CARR: And I was unclear how a customer for Utah International's coal or copper thinks one way or another about GE products because he happens to have bought the... JONES: No. No. That isn't(?) what it means. CARR: ...that sounds very good. I didn't think