28 this doesn't take a great deal of extra time on their part because they're so immersed in that particular topic and all of them have been very happy to take on these added chores if you will without in any way lessening the contribution they make to our Company or, let's say, increasing the expense that the Company has. CARR: So when they do this work it's part but when you go to these various forums, Congressional committees, or the labor/management group, advisory committee, you then have the staff people go with you? JONES: Ho. I do on occasion where I know that there will be other staff people involved. Let's say some Governmental entity that is going(?) to bring some staff people for a more intensive investigation, but generally speaking, no, I really feel that if I've done my homework, I can probably answer most of the questions that are going to develop. CARR: I would think that working on so many things would actually enhance the views or the skills of the people who are already working on the problems(?)... JONES: Yeah... CARR: You know, what the public policy is(?).