23 different Administrations. This particular committee with its present makeup got started in the second half of 1974 shortly after President Ford assumed the Presidency. So, you might say it's in its third year of operation now and this Fall it will he starting its fourth year, the present committee, and there were predecessors. CARR: What's the tone(?) of the thing (very low speaking voice not clear) talk about things like taxes and housing, control inflation(?), (not clear). JONES: Well, I think the tone is very good. We know that there are some areas where we're going to find it extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to find consensus, so, there's no point in getting people redfaced on both sides of the table talking about it. We don't attempt to cover those. We also recognize that there are many areas that are of common interest, common concern, where it might be possible to develop agreement, those we do tackle. By getting some staff work done in advance of the meeting you can find the areas, the general areas, where perhaps the principals can reach agreement. The general areas where perhaps they can't and so you begin in this manner to develop some position and when we get to the principals it's a matter more of making the