53 where we would have to extend our borrowing to get us through a crunch period and with what we see ahead in terms of growth and the inevitable cyclicality that we've all lived through in the past, we're going to use that billion advantageously. CARR: Do you have in mind possible other acquisitions? JONES: Well, we don't have anything in mind that would be even approaching even likely the size of Utah International. When I talk... (END OF SIDE TWO TAPE ONE) (TAPE TWO SIDE ONE RESUMES) CARR: Well, I was wondering if I could backtrack a little and ask you about the Utah International, we sort of got into it a little bit here in answer to one of my questions in a way, but this has been described as the biggest merger, I guess in terms of the price tag in the history of America, so, it's pretty important in that sense. I was wondering how this opportunity arose and how it was initially approached and I was thinking less in terms of what the rationale, in this question... JONES: You've got all that. CARR: Well, but I'm thinking more of the human