15 availability with them and, as you know, President Carter in his anti-inflation statement did say that he would call on the group to give advice. CARR: And this is the group that Dunlop.... JONES: John Dunlop is our moderator, if you wish to call him that, and we have issued a press statement following the meeting that we had very shortly after the President appointed us, we invited Secretaries Blumenthal and Marshall to join us for dinner that evening after we had been meeting in the afternoon and I think we've developed a modus operandi and Art can give you a copy of the statement that the group put out. Now, in addition to... CARR: Does that group have a name? You keep referring to it as the labor/management group, that must be informal (?) then. JONES: That's what we call ourselves because, you see, when John Dunlop resigned over the veto on common situs picketing, the labor boys, in effect, felt very strongly on that issue, as you know, and they did not, therefore, want to continue in an official capacity, but some of us felt that there was some merit in our staying together, that we hag been able to clarify some thinking on both sides of the table and