20 President's Labor and Management Advisory Committee, at the time that was an official Governmental agency, but then there have been a good many informal contacts where you would be called for your views on some Issue, generally of an economic nature, and be happy to work up facts, statistics, analyses, that perhaps could be helpful. There were many of these informal visitations. For example, the Department of Commerce would have a host of questions to ask us over the years. CARR: Is this Export Advisory group, is that still active or is that... JONES: Well, at the moment that is not active because the Government, the Federal Government, is now taking a look at all of these advisory committees and determining which ones it wishes to cancel and which ones it wishes to carry on and I know that there is some discussion underway now as to what the future should be of the Export Council. CARR: If I may return a minute to the labor/management group, I read because of your very informal and unofficial and in a way sort of relaxed sort of open status that you purposely meet in Hay Adams Hotel, you pick a neutral place... JONES: Well, that's very convenient. It's across the street from AFL-CIO headquarters. It's practically across